Mohniye Karm King of all karma
Before you start reading this, you should read my journal on 2026-06-23 - Khichdi kaand to understand what triggered me to write this, and this note has references of the event, hence reading that is kinda pre-requisite.
Analysis of Mohniye Karm
- Mohniye karm is king of all karma.
- It kicks in and we get sammohit, enchanted and we do not even recognise it when it is up. And we act on it and it leads to even more mohniye karm bandhan which leads to more karm bandhan.
- An undetectable Cyclic loop.
- Vedniye, Gyanavarniye, Antaray are still detectable, and has a small blast radius.
- Mohniye is not detectable in runtime, it can be detected in retrospect or by third person if they remind us during execution. And can cause a series of cascasing paap karma bandhan.
- There is a way though, often times, when mohniye karm dictates we lose out on options.
- After Yug suggested measuring, many responses were available.
- "Good point."
- "Let's measure."
- "Let's see if I'm right."
- "Haha, challenge accepted."
- Instead, very quickly there was only one acceptable future.
- "I must not measure."
- Whenever your mind starts saying
- "I cannot back down now."
- That's probably one of the earliest runtime signals.
- Sunken cost fallacy kicks in, to cover one lie, we tell few more, to save our initial pride, we develop more pride to defend it, etc.
- So its important to nip it in the bud, or do it as soon as we discover it to be in action.
- Mohniye karma also can force us to justify our lethargy, and bad intent, wrap it up in logic of vyavhaar nay and slowly expand it's boundary.
- See how watching few short videos which are wrapped in "It is information after all", or "I need it to mentally relax after such a long day" has wasted hours and actually mentally drained you as well, you will see few good info vids and few Time pass idiotic funny stuff, they seed the subconcious into more problems or ill intent later.
- Watching things with kashay will lead to more mohniye karm bandhan, which will again lead to more anubandh. It is cyclical not just from psychological Pov, but from karm philosophy too!
Analysis of the trigger
- In retrospect I feel the trigger could've been to look cool, or comply with the banter that I and my flatmate usually have.
- I wanted to say something cool and stick by it to show off my will, wisdom and skill.
- In a normal mundane setup, it is easy to give up "Questioning" your instinct.
General Analysis of Event's Action and Intention
- For every event there are two things action and intention. Action is often triggered by instinct, if we pause we can reason with the instinctive intention and shape it aptly.
- Karm Bandhan happens due to action (yog) and intention(bhaav), superficially we often miss out on intention and treat an event as good or bad based on our perception of action.
- At surface level it might appear that there are 4 combinations:
| Action | Intention | Example (Format - Action, Intention) |
|---|---|---|
| Good | Good | Donating a dharmik book to someone , out of karuna to help another being get samyak darshan |
| Good | Bad | Donating a dharmik book to someone, out of hope that they would owe me one and pay back to me in greater way in wordly sense. |
| Bad | Good | Beating a kid, because they were about to play with stove. |
| Bad | Bad | Killing an insect, because you were disgusted by it |
- But it is more complicated than this! Its not always a binary good or bad, there can be varying intensity associated with it as well! Usually we are okay with low intensity of bad stuff, and in order to optimise our life, we need to minimize the intensity of "Bad"ness of both action and intention.
- Although action can be easy to judge, Intention is tricky, often times intention is instinctive and hidden when it triggers an action. You can choose to pause and decouple or reason your intention in your head. But the moment you do that you see a set of options in your mind.
- The ideal way is to fix the Intuitive intention (the intention that triggered it), but in order to shape that, we need to do the excercise of pausing and analysing all possible intentions.
- If you are doing an action, make sure you pick the right intention, coz there can be an array of intention options (both good and bad)! Even though it is retrospective in nature, coz you already had a trigger (which could have been bad intention), it acts as a feedback learning mechanism for training future insticts.
Decoupling Action and intention
- When you pause and look at the possible intentions, based on your nature you would first think of a bad or good one. Right now I feel I often see the bad one first out of selfishness. And then I willfully try to see a good one, and try to train myself to look at that.
- For eg, I live with a flatmate and we share the same bathroom.
- He goes to office at 8:45 or 9 am.
- So he usually wakes up at 8:15 or 8:30 and rushes to get ready.
- My timings are flexible, but I try to get ready early so that I can leave with him or in general don't get late. So I use the bathroom at 7:45 or 8.
- At times I get a lil late and at 8:30 I have a choice
- Either Wake him up
- Or use the bathroom
- Action in itself is not good or bad, both actions are grey areas, lemme decouple each action with good and bad intentions:
- A - Wake him up
- Bad intention - Lemme ruin his sleep, why is he sleeping for so long?
- Good intention - If I don't wake him up, he will get late.
- B - Use the Bathroom
- Bad intention - If I wake him up, I will get late.
- Good intention - He might have slept late, I should not intervene in his sleep cycle, health is more important than office, if he gets late, it is not end of the world. He is smart enough to know if getting late is a problem he would have told me to wake him up or he would have alarms blazing off.
- Lemme add more complexity to it by bringing in jain principles, Waking him up with the good intention of helping him so that he does not get late, is wrong in Nishchay nay, coz first of all I am becoming antaray for his sleep, also if I wake him up I am waking a mithyatvi who would only do more hinsa when awake.
- As per Acharya Bhikshu's teachings, we should not intervene in anything happening, a cat killing a mouse is their event, I save the mouse, I end up starving the cat ! Actions are grey!
- Best is to avoid external actions. Internal actions and actions that have limited exposure to others is ideal.
- A - Wake him up
- You see it can get super complicated when we do analysis of every action!
- So what's the ideal way?
Corrective steps
Trigger → Observe → Pause → Examine → Choose → Act → Reflect → Train instinct
Each stage serves a different purpose.
- Trigger
- Something happens.
- Yug says, "Measure the daal."
- Observe the instinct
- Don't suppress it.
- Let the first thought appear naturally.
- Example: "I don't need to measure. I know this."
- This instinct is valuable information. It reveals your current conditioning (sanskars and kashayas). If you suppress it, you lose the opportunity to learn from it.
- Pause
- Create a small gap.
- This gap is where freedom exists.
- Without the gap, instinct becomes action automatically.
- Examine
Ask questions like:- What am I trying to protect?
- Is this coming from man, lobh, krodh, maya, fear, compassion, or equanimity?
- What intention would I admire if someone else acted this way?
- If nobody knew what I did, would I still choose this?
- Choose
Deliberately select both:- the action, and
- the bhava with which you'll perform it.
- Act
Execute the decision wholeheartedly.
Don't keep mentally fighting after choosing. - Reflect afterwards
Ask:- What was my first instinct?
- What did I consciously choose?
- Was my analysis correct?
- What did reality teach me?
- Train the instinct
- This reflection is what gradually reshapes the instinct itself.
- Meditate on this!
The beautiful part
- Initially, it feels like this:
- Trigger > Bad instinct > Long pause > Reasoning > Good action
- After enough repetitions:
- Trigger > Good instinct > Small pause > Confirmation > Good action
- Eventually:
- Trigger > Natural right inclination
- The pause never completely disappears, but it becomes much shorter because your intuition has been retrained.
One caution
- There is one trap of "Evaluating the pros and cons and pick the right action and intention." can lead to analysis paralysis.
- So after a reasonable examination, ask:
Which option comes from the least attachment (r aga) and aversion (dvesa), with the most awareness?
- You rarely have certainty about the objectively "perfect" action. But you can often recognize which option is less driven by ego, fear, greed, or deceit.
Final Conclusion
Don't trust your first impulse, don't reject it either. Observe it as a reflection of your current conditioning, then consciously choose the intention and action you wish to strengthen. Every such choice becomes training data for your future intuition.
The goal isn't to become someone who never experiences pride or fear; it's to shorten the distance between recognizing the conditioning and acting from awareness. Over time, that awareness gradually becomes the new instinct.
Output from this exp
- Built another concept in my jain philosophy game - Mohniye Karm concept and lab
- Started studying Hypnosis - Induction - NLP